The Silmarillion - Ainulindale, Valaquenta, and Chapters 1-2

August 6, 2001 - August 28, 2001

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Ainulindale

by Moriel, August 6-12, 2001

#1: Religion, not history [8/6/2001 @ 1:41] (3/12)

#2: Lonliness goeth before the Fall? [8/6/2001 @ 1:50] (4/6)

#3: Why does Iluvatar smile at Melkor's first discord? [8/6/2001 @ 2:01] (5/17)

#4: The Roaring of the Sea [8/7/2001 @ 3:47] (1/6)

#5: At what point can we say that Melkor has "fallen"? [8/7/2001 @ 12:46] (3/6)

#6: Melkor - Creator of Beauty? [8/8/2001 @ 8:06] (5/6)

#7: Just how "spiritual" are the Eldar? [8/8/2001 @ 8:08] (3/3)

The Choice of the Angels vs. The Choices of the Ainur <Steve D> [8/8/2001 @ 14:49] (3/14)

#8: Music as Creation [8/9/2001 @ 11:16] (1/3)

Summary [8/10/2001 @ 10:24] (7/9)

How would St. Augustine or St. Thomas answer this? <Steve D> [8/12/2001 @ 17:00] (5/8)

See the 2nd Discussion by CelebornsMirror, July 2004

See the 3rd Discussion by Arwen's Daughter, August 2009

See the 4th Discussion by CuriousG, December 2012

 

Valaquenta

by Inferno, August 13-18, 2001

Dramatis Personae [8/13/2001 @ 13:20] (4/4)

Sea, Earth, Wind, and Fire. [8/13/2001 @ 13:32] (5/7)

A Pantheon [8/13/2001 @ 20:03] (4/8)

A Prologue. [8/13/2001 @ 20:08] (5/7)

Sources of the Valar [8/14/2001 @ 20:08] (2/12)

Melkor. [8/14/2001 @ 20:17] (3/8)

Good vs. Evil. [8/15/2001 @ 19:29] (1/2)

'Olorin I was in the West that is forgotton.' [8/15/2001 @ 19:34] (4/5)

Melian. [8/15/2001 @ 19:37] (3/5)

The Balrog Question. [8/16/2001 @ 20:31] (2/2)

Inferno...thanks for your work on Valaquenta!! (No Text) <Patty> [8/18/2001 @ 18:34] (5/5)

Why were two of the Valar not married? (No Text) <Steve D> [8/21/2001 @ 19:22] (4/29)

See the 2nd Discussion by squire, July 2004

See the 3rd Discussion by N.E. Brigand, August 2009

See the 4th Discussion by noWizardme, January 2013

 

1. Of the Beginning of Days

by Ufthak, August 18-24, 2001

Tulkas vs Melkor [8/18/2001 @ 19:16] (6/10)

Melkor the perverter [8/19/2001 @ 17:54] (5/8)

The Valar take a breather. [8/21/2001 @ 14:36] (4/6)

Manwe the "man" for the job? [8/22/2001 @ 18:37] (7/9)

The First Designs of the Valar [8/23/2001 @ 15:04] (2/3)

Differences between Elves and Men [8/23/2001 @ 17:32] (3/4)

Evaluation [8/24/2001 @ 17:24] (4/9)

See the 2nd Discussion by Curious, July-August 2004

See the 3rd Discussion by Hamfast Gamgee, August 2009

See the 4th Discussion by noWizardme, January 2013

 

2. Of Aule and Yavanna

by FingonOfPittsburgh, August 26-28, 2001

#1 Are they really that uncouth? [8/26/2001 @ 22:08] (2/4)

#2 Who are the true Firstborn? [8/26/2001 @ 22:14] (4/6)

#1 Are they really that uncouth? -- REPOST (due to display trouble) [8/27/2001 @ 8:48] (1/3)

#2 Who are the true Firstborn? REPOST (for those of us getting an echo....) [8/27/2001 @ 8:52] (2/2)

#3 -- Gimli [8/27/2001 @ 20:43] (4/20)

#4 Dietary Guidelines? [8/27/2001 @ 20:50] (6/11)

#5 Were Treebeard and Thorondor Maiar? [8/28/2001 @ 18:12] (3/6)

See the 2nd Discussion by Penthe, August 2004

See the 3rd Discussion by Hamfast Gamgee, August 2009

See the 4th Discussion by telain, January 2013

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