The Silmarillion - Chapters 12-18

October 12, 2001 - November 15, 2001

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12. Of Men

by Daddy Twofoot, October 12-14, 2001

"..they understood not the messages.." [10/12/2001 @ 1:34] (4/10)

Chapters 11&12 - Summary [10/14/2001 @ 14:57] (4/4)

See the 2nd Discussion by Luinaelin, September 2004

See the 3rd Discussion by Voronwë the Faithful, October 2009

See the 4th Discussion by Macliel, May 2013

 

13. Of the Return of the Noldor

by Moriel, October 15-22, 2001

The Death of Feanor [10/15/2001 @ 10:26] (4/9)

Maedhros' Ordeal on Thangorodrim [10/16/2001 @ 11:50] (4/7)

Thingol's Cold Welcome [10/17/2001 @ 10:22] (5/20)

Could Caranthir have contributed to bad relations between Dwarves and Elves? [10/18/2001 @ 10:07] (2/8)

Misc matters: Setting the stage for latter events [10/19/2001 @ 12:01] (4/10)

Big Bird [10/19/2001 @ 12:04] (6/28)

Summary [10/22/2001 @ 11:35] (8/9)

 

See the 2nd Discussion by hills, September 2004

See the 3rd Discussion by JTM, October 2009

See the 4th Discussion by Brethil, May 2013

 

14. Of Beleriand and Its Realms

by Inferno, October 23-24, 2001

A plethora of place-names [10/23/2001 @ 14:40] (6/9)

The green fields of Ard-galen [10/23/2001 @ 14:43] (3/4)

Amon Ereb, Foreshadowing? [10/23/2001 @ 14:45] (4/4)

Maedhros' motives? [10/23/2001 @ 14:49] (6/8)

Nevrast, Sirion, and Gelion [10/24/2001 @ 19:02] (3/6)

Chapters 14&15 -- Turgon. [10/24/2001 @ 19:09] (3/9)

See the 2nd Discussion by Arquen, Sept-Oct 2004

See the 3rd Discussion by Pryderi, October 2009

See the 4th Discussion by telain, May 2013

 

15. Of the Noldor in Beleriand

by Inferno, October 25-30, 2001

Galadriel. [10/25/2001 @ 19:11] (2/3)

The Valar and Middle-Earth. [10/25/2001 @ 19:13] (3/10)

Angrod and Finrod. [10/25/2001 @ 19:16] (3/6)

Felagund's Oath. [10/25/2001 @ 19:20] (2/3)

Chapters 14&15-- Summary. [10/30/2001 @ 12:10] (3/3)

 

See the 2nd Discussion by Arquen, October 2004

See the 3rd Discussion by Pryderi, October 2009

See the 4th Discussion by Brethil, May 2013

 

16. Of Maeglin

by Karmul, October 31-November 5, 2001

Gondolin. [10/31/2001 @ 14:57] (2/3)

The Dark Elf [10/31/2001 @ 20:00] (2/8)

the seduction of Aredhel [11/1/2001 @ 14:55] (2/6)

Maeglin [11/1/2001 @ 18:50] (5/6)

return to Gondolin. [11/4/2001 @ 20:24] (2/3)

Eol gives chase. [11/4/2001 @ 21:06] (2/5)

the death of Aredhel [11/5/2001 @ 20:31] (2/7)

Death of Eol. [11/5/2001 @ 20:40] (2/3)

Darkening of Maeglin [11/5/2001 @ 20:58] (3/7)

 

See the 2nd Discussion by Bythdar, October 2004

See the 3rd Discussion by Morthoron, October 2009

See the 4th Discussion by Macliel, June 2013

 

17. Of the Coming of Men into the West

by Idril Celebrindal, November 6-9, 2001

Of the Coming of Men into the West [11/6/2001 @ 15:59] (3/11)

Elves, Dwarves and Men [11/6/2001 @ 16:11] (3/4)

Finrod Felagund [11/7/2001 @ 16:03] (2/5)

Morgoth and Men [11/7/2001 @ 16:06] (3/14)

Haleth [11/7/2001 @ 16:13] (4/6)

Caught in the Doom of the Noldor [11/8/2001 @ 12:26] (1/1)

The fate of Men [11/8/2001 @ 12:35] (1/1)

Did Men benefit from contact with the Noldor? [11/9/2001 @ 11:22] (2/2)

The Valar and Men [11/9/2001 @ 11:31] (1/2)

Summary [11/9/2001 @ 11:55] (3/3)

a question about Melian and Thingol <Kimi> [11/18/2001 @ 21:37] (3/7)

 

See the 2nd Discussion by eowyn_rohan, October 2004

See the 3rd Discussion by Elizabeth, Oct-Nov 2009

See the 4th Discussion by sador, June 2013

 

18. Of the Ruin of Beleriand and the Fall of Fingolfin

by FingonOfPittsburgh, November 12-15, 2001

#1: There came a time of winter, when night was dark and without moon... [11/12/2001 @ 9:07] (5/7)

#2: And Morgoth Came [11/13/2001 @ 8:32] (5/7)

#3: And he wounded Morgoth with seven wounds. [11/14/2001 @ 8:48] (4/11)

#4: But Thorondor came hasting from his eyrie... [11/15/2001 @ 9:57] (2/5)

Wrapping Up and Summary [11/15/2001 @ 22:31] (4/6)

 

See the 2nd Discussion by hatster, October 2004

See the 3rd Discussion by Saelind, November 2009

See the 4th Discussion by noWizardme, June 2013

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