The Return of the King - Book V

July 20, 2003 - September 28, 2003

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Minas Tirith

by Ufthak, July 20-26, 2003

Minas Tirith - Disclaimer [7/20 @ 13:52] (5/22)

#1 - Back in The Saddle Again [7/20 @ 13:56] (6/9)

#2 - Gandalf's Soft Spot [7/20 @ 14:04] (12/34)

#3 - Big Mouth Strikes Again [7/21 @ 11:24] (8/11)

#4 - Always Look On The Bright Side Of Life [7/21 @ 11:28] (6/8)

#5 - The Lie of the Land, and I bang on about Purity again [7/21 @ 12:00] (5/12)

#6 - Language, Mr Tolkien, Language [7/22 @ 20:25] (12/14)

#7 - "If Man is 5, then the Devil is 6... [7/22 @ 20:27] (14/44)

#8 - Men of Stone [7/23 @ 11:11] (15/30)

#9 - Papa's Got A Brand New (Body)Bag [7/23 @ 11:11] (15/26)

#10 - Those Orc Things Pop Up Again [7/23 @ 11:13] (17/58)

#11 - I'm a Man (Halfling) Not a Boy [7/24 @ 18:10] (9/13)

#12 - Pippin Wishes He Could take The Fifth [7/24 @ 18:13] (7/15)

#13 - Who Is That Masked Man, Anyway? [7/24 @ 18:14] (5/9)

#14 - Nudge Nudge, Wink Wink, Say No More... [7/24 @ 18:16] (7/10)

#15 - Handbags At Dawn [7/24 @ 18:18] (12/44)

#16 - I Wanna Live Like Common People [7/25 @ 11:36] (6/9)

#17 - Turn and Turnabout [7/25 @ 12:04] (4/7)

#18 - The Voice of Reason [7/25 @ 12:35] (8/9)

#19 - Beregond on Faramir (aka Hearsay are more than just a naff British pop act) [7/25 @ 19:45] (10/16)

#20 - Free For All [7/26 @ 5:46] (16/43)

 

See the 1st Discussion by Inferno, January-February 2001

See the 3rd Discussion by N.E. Brigand, December 2005

See the 4th Discussion by drogo, Aug.-Sept. 2008

See the 5th Discussion by Hamfast Gamgee, June 2011

See the 6th Discussion by CuriousG, April 2016

 

The Passing of the Grey Company

by Elwen, July 28-August 3, 2003

#1: "This is the short and the long of it." [7/28 @ 10:11] (5/10)

#2: "'Tis better to be brief than tedious" [7/28 @ 10:32] (13/30)

#3: "Men of few words are the best men." [7/28 @ 18:33] (12/40)

#4: "They that thrive well take counsel of their friends" [7/28 @ 23:27] (11/13)

#5: "Love sought is good, but given unsought is better" [7/29 @ 13:14] (16/24)

#6: "Men at some time are masters of their fate" [7/29 @ 20:49] (10/21)

#7: "Love from one side hurts, but love from two sides heals" [7/30 @ 16:48] (11/34)

#8 "By heaven, I do love, and it hath taught me to rhyme, and to be melancholy " [7/31 @ 0:04] (11/24)

#9: "Oh that I were a man!" [7/31 @ 12:05] (10/33)

#10: "True nobility is exempt from fear." [7/31 @ 20:32] (10/20)

#11: “I bear a charmed life.” [7/31 @ 23:49] (11/16)

#12: "He was a man, take him for all in all, I shall not look upon his like again." [8/1 @ 10:41] (13/25)

#13: "XIII. Misery acquaints a man with strange bedfellows!" [8/1 @ 16:37] (5/16)

#14: "I like this place and willingly could waste my time in it." [8/2 @ 12:09] (5/20)

Final: "The game is up." [8/3 @ 18:00] (18/18)

 

See the 1st Discussion by Steve D, February 2001

See the 3rd Discussion by Entmaiden, January 2006

See the 4th Discussion by squire, September 2008

See the 5th Discussion by Pryderi, June 2011

See the 6th Discussion by noWizardme, April 2016

 

The Muster of Rohan

by EowynDernhelm, August 3-10, 2003

#1: "Now all roads were running together..." [8/3 @ 13:29] (7/9)

#2: "Day was waning." [8/4 @ 10:15] (9/14)

#3: "Our journey is almost at an end." [8/4 @ 12:40] (14/29)

#4: "Then one blew a long call on a horn..." [8/4 @ 15:52] (5/12)

#5: The Pukel-men [8/5 @ 12:01] (8/10)

#6: "The rider was a woman" [8/5 @ 16:35] (6/12)

#7: "They have all left me now." [8/5 @ 18:03] (7/17)

#8: "'Come, Master Meriadoc!' he said. 'You shall not stand...'" [8/6 @ 10:42] (6/22)

#9: “What lies beyond no man knows.” [8/6 @ 13:30] (6/16)

#10: "Then why has Aragorn gone that way?" [8/6 @ 15:58] (9/19)

#11: “The Red Arrow” [8/7 @ 9:43] (8/14)

#12: “Dark tidings” [8/7 @ 12:08] (9/25)

#13: "With that the king stood up..." [8/7 @ 18:26] (10/23)

#14: "I am going to war, Master Meriadoc," [8/8 @ 12:38] (11/14)

#15: "without horn or harp or music of men's voices" [8/8 @ 15:56] (9/13)

#16: “It was indeed in deepening gloom…” [8/9 @ 10:34] (7/16)

#17: Open Mike [8/9 @ 10:41] (5/15)

#18: Conclusion [8/10 @ 11:08] (14/14)

 

See the 1st Discussion by Blue Wizard, February 2001

See the 3rd Discussion by Wynnie, January 2006

See the 4th Discussion by Child of Manwe, September 2008

See the 5th Discussion by Elizabeth, June 2011

See the 6th Discussion by Al Carondas, April 2016

 

The Siege of Gondor

by gullygilly, August 11-17, 2003

What's to come [8/10 @ 9:39] (9/11)

#1 What? No second breakfast? [8/10 @ 17:26] (14/27)

#2 Spooky [8/11 @ 9:26] (7/14)

#3 Let's pretend [8/11 @ 9:30] (8/13)

#4 Just tell me what you want [8/11 @ 19:39] (8/11)

#5 Who am I? Pippin or Ernil i Pheriannath, Prince of the Halflings? [8/11 @ 19:53] (7/9)

#6 Does anybody really know what time it is? [8/12 @ 10:23] (5/6)

#7 Time waits for no one [8/12 @ 10:42] (6/8)

#8-- I saw the light [8/12 @ 10:51] (8/9)

#9--My hands can't feel to grip [8/12 @ 19:15] (7/10)

#10--What's the time? - it's time to get ill [8/12 @ 19:19] (9/22)

#11 -- The fool on the (really big) hill [8/13 @ 8:07] (6/8)

#12 --"Is there any hope?" [8/13 @ 8:22] (6/8)

#13 -- "They give him no rest" [8/13 @ 8:28] (5/18)

#14 -- Denethor's clothes [8/13 @ 19:46] (6/9)

#15 -- Amroth [8/13 @ 19:50] (9/13)

#16-- the Nameless One and other nameless things [8/14 @ 8:46] (5/5)

#17 --Flying heads [8/14 @ 9:05] (10/11)

#18-- "It's not enough to just save face... [8/14 @ 19:14] (8/21)

#19 -- Knockin' on Heaven's Door [8/14 @ 19:28] (8/10)

#20-- Burn baby burn [8/15 @ 10:16] (9/18)

#21--The Long and Winding Road [8/15 @ 10:27] (3/3)

#22-- Not so fond of Grond [8/15 @ 10:35] (9/10)

#23 -- Gandalf faces the Witch King [8/15 @ 17:36] (7/24)

#24-- Open Forum [8/16 @ 10:02] (6/32)

Chapter Summary "Psst! Very long-- very bad verse inside." [8/17 @ 20:05] (21/26)

Did Denethor see Frodo? <erather> [8/18 @ 17:01] (5/28)

Some thoughts on the sieges of Minas Tirith and of Troy <NZ Strider> [8/19 @ 16:49] (10/16)

Follow up to seige weapons discussion <Gwynfor> [9/2 @ 21:04] (5/8)

 

See the 1st Discussion by Frodo Gardner, February 2001

See the 3rd Discussion by bigidiot, January 2006

See the 4th Discussion by N.E. Brigand, September 2008

See the 5th Discussion by squire, June-July 2011

See the 6th Discussion by noWizardme, April 2016

 

The Ride of the Rohirrim

by Atlas, August 18-25, 2003

#1: Overview and Relevant Chronology [8/18 @ 1:28] (11/13)

#2: Intents and Purposes [8/18 @ 2:32] (18/34)

#3: Time and Distance [8/19 @ 3:10] (8/14)

#4: Do you want to know a secret? [8/19 @ 3:17] (14/30)

#5: Where do you get your information? [8/19 @ 3:21] (9/13)

#6: Say what? [8/20 @ 2:19] (11/19)

#7: We've had our differences... [8/20 @ 2:25] (10/24)

#8: Do you see what I see? [8/21 @ 3:27] (6/7)

#9: On the road again... [8/21 @ 3:33] (8/11)

#10: Two steps forward, one step back. [8/21 @ 3:47] (7/23)

#11: On your Mark, get set... [8/22 @ 3:08] (9/20)

#12: Riders on the storm... [8/22 @ 3:12] (9/17)

#13: Half a league, half a league, half a league onward [8/22 @ 3:30] (10/23)

#14: Open Discussion. [8/22 @ 20:17] (7/76)

Summary (long, no rhymes) [8/25 @ 6:28] (20/21)

 

See the 1st Discussion by Blue Wizard, Feb.-March 2001

See the 3rd Discussion by Atlas, January 2006

See the 4th Discussion by Elizabeth, Sept.-Oct. 2008

See the 5th Discussion by dormouse, July 2011

See the 6th Discussion by oliphaunt, May 2016

 

The Battle of the Pelennor Fields

by nerdanel50, August 25-September 2, 2003

Hasty Introduction and Part 1 [8/25 @ 2:20] (8/14)

2: Who's in Charge Here? [8/25 @ 2:25] (12/19)

3: Who Are These Guys? [8/26 @ 1:06] (6/6)

4: One down, two to go. [8/26 @ 13:08] (8/18)

5: Mount Up [8/26 @ 13:46] (10/22)

6: Eyes and Fathers Everywhere [8/26 @ 16:37] (15/26)

7: A Sword By Woman Borne [8/27 @ 11:48] (9/12)

8: Drinks Are On Me. [8/27 @ 11:53] (17/27)

9: The Not-A-Man Who Wasn't There [8/27 @ 14:58] (14/18)

10: What Do Women Want? [8/27 @ 23:07] (11/24)

11: Your homework [8/28 @ 15:34] (7/25)

12: Extra credit [8/28 @ 16:25] (3/4)

13: This and That [8/28 @ 16:43] (12/22)

14: The Sick and the Dead [8/29 @ 14:13] (12/17)

15: [8/29 @ 15:25] (9/23)

16: Hurray! Hurray! [8/29 @ 21:14] (10/13)

17: Regime Change Begins at Home [8/29 @ 21:37] (10/12)

18: Open Mike [8/29 @ 21:49] (3/23)

Exceedingly Long and Late Summary [9/2 @ 18:23] (25/26)

 

See the 1st Discussion by Inferno, March 2001

See the 3rd Discussion by Penthe, Jan.-Feb. 2006

See the 4th Discussion by Milady, October 2008

See the 5th Discussion by Darkstone, July 2011

See the 6th Discussion by squire, May 2016

 

The Pyre of Denethor

by Arador and a Free-for-All, September 1-6, 2003

1: So Pippin tells..and Gandalf decides [9/1 @ 19:33] (17/30)

2: argh Denethor and aww Faramir [9/3 @ 0:26] (19/46)

Gandalf the Usurper? <Altaira> [9/4 @ 23:01] (10/17)

"Plan B" <Altaira> [9/4 @ 23:06] (9/14)

try a little kindness? <Kimi> [9/4 @ 23:33] (7/12)

Change is the only constant <Kimi> [9/5 @ 0:02] (8/13)

Is Denethor's Exit Too Neat? <Curious> [9/5 @ 0:24] (12/14)

Is Denethor Judged Unworthy? <Curious> [9/5 @ 8:44] (11/15)

Peregrin the Brave, or What?? <drogo_drogo> [9/5 @ 8:55] (4/14)

Sad Gandalf <Acathalion> [9/5 @ 18:23] (7/8)

Forgive my stupidity....but im new.....What is up with the Pyre of Denothors? Theres millions of em' (No Text) <Earawen Lomiel> [9/5 @ 19:18] (2/4)

How does the Witch-king...  <Golfimbul> [9/6 @ 0:17] (7/20)

 

See the 1st Discussion by Gorel, March 2001

See the 3rd Discussion by nefisa3, February 2006

See the 4th Discussion by Menelwyn, October 2008

See the 5th Discussion by CuriousG, July 2011

See the 6th Discussion by Al Carondas, May 2016

 

The Houses of Healing

by notlost, September 8-14, 2003

#1: Play Misty for Me [9/8 @ 9:48] (11/26)

#2: Reunited, and it Feels so Good [9/8 @ 9:50] (11/15)

#3: The Perils and Perks of Being Overlooked [9/8 @ 22:46] (11/19)

#4: Into Pippin’s Head, and Enter Gandalf [9/9 @ 8:47] (6/10)

#5: The Black Shadow [9/9 @ 8:49] (8/20)

#6: The Fool Who Speaks the Truth [9/9 @ 21:20] (17/65)

#7: Enter Aragorn (or not) [9/10 @ 9:05] (9/14)

#8: What’s in a Name? [9/10 @ 9:06] (7/14)

#9: Pick a Little, Talk a Little… [9/10 @ 21:08] (8/29)

#10: The Herb-Master [9/11 @ 9:06] (6/10)

#11: The Soldier Who Cheated Death [9/11 @ 9:07] (12/28)

#12: Steel Magnolia [9/11 @ 22:20] (11/19)

#13: I am Hungry. What is the Time? [9/12 @ 10:29] (5/7)

#14: Mature Hobbits (or, Merry gets Artsy-Fartsy) [9/12 @ 10:29] (9/16)

#15: Open Forum [9/12 @ 10:30] (3/27)

Bringing Down the House (Summary) [9/14 @ 2:22] (20/23)

 

See the 1st Discussion by Annael, March 2001

See the 3rd Discussion by Curious, February 2006

See the 4th Discussion by Saelind, October 2008

See the 5th Discussion by sador, July 2011

See the 6th Discussion by Elizabeth, May 2016

 

The Last Debate

by Kendig, September 14-27, 2003

An Appetizer for "The Last Debate" [9/14 @ 11:58] (8/18)

#1 I'm okay, you're oh so Elvish [9/14 @ 22:15] (20/85)

#2, Elvish Lives! *slap* Okay, sorry, here are the questions [9/15 @ 19:18] (16/30)

#3 Life, The Universe and Everything [9/16 @ 14:52] (14/28)

#4 Make your own bad seagull pun here. [9/17 @ 1:57] (16/45)

#5 [9/18 @ 3:31] (10/15)

#6, Telling Tales [9/19 @ 0:40] (14/43)

#7, Apologies and Rhetoric [9/23 @ 3:16] (7/20)

#8, and only one week late! [9/25 @ 19:40] (7/11)

The Last Debate - Imrahil. <Kimi> [9/27 @ 18:38] (7/15)

"A great evil of this world will be removed" <Kimi> [9/28 @ 1:21] (8/8)

About that "Last Debate" summary [10/1/2003 @ 13:28] (5/7)

 

See the 1st Discussion by Kimi, March 2001

See the 3rd Discussion by Menelwyn, February 2006

See the 4th Discussion by Ataahua, October 2008

See the 5th Discussion by Curious, August 2011

See the 6th Discussion by enanito, May-June 2016

 

The Black Gate Opens

by Osse, September 22-28, 2003

#1: …Eventually. [9/22 @ 17:17] (6/13)

#2 Can’t I have just [9/22 @ 17:43] (9/24)

#3: The other Journey to the Cross-Roads [9/22 @ 19:31] (12/18)

#4: Back on the road again [9/23 @ 17:06] (12/32)

#5: Anyone home? [9/24 @ 10:32] (12/16)

#6: Let me introduce myself… [9/24 @ 11:49] (9/18)

#7: Who’s in charge here? [9/26 @ 10:07] (10/19)

#8: Collect three tokens from special packs [9/26 @ 10:26] (8/13)

#9: Terms & Conditions apply… [9/26 @ 10:43] (7/18)

#10:The end is nigh [9/27 @ 13:18] (6/18)

In response to Ossë’s invitation: A question on “The Black Gate Opens”: <NZ Strider> [9/27 @ 17:57] (7/23)

Quick "Black Gate Opens" Question: There's Those Eagles Again! <drogo_drogo> [9/28 @ 16:13] (5/25)

 

See the 1st Discussion by Ufthak, March-April 2001

See the 3rd Discussion by Grammaboodawg, Feb.-Mar. 2006

See the 4th Discussion by Morthoron, November 2008

See the 5th Discussion by Darkstone, August 2011

See the 6th Discussion by Hamfast Gamgee, June 2016

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