The Two Towers - Book IV

May 12 - July 20, 2003

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The Taming of Smeagol

by Nimfalma Took, May 12-18, 2003

Drumroll please: "The Taming of Smeagol" Part 1 [5/12 @ 16:18] (9/12)

Part 2 [5/12 @ 16:30] (8/16)

Part 3 [5/13 @ 15:32] (8/29)

Part 4 [5/15 @ 16:39] (6/23)

Part 5 [5/15 @ 19:56] (8/21)

Part 6 [5/16 @ 12:04] (11/21)

Part 7 [5/16 @ 19:32] (5/13)

Part 8 [5/16 @ 19:43] (6/9)

Part 9 [5/17 @ 14:35] (6/12)

Part 10 [5/17 @ 16:07] (8/15)

Part 11 [5/18 @ 18:33] (4/11)

Concluding Remarks [5/18 @ 18:43] (13/14)

 

See the 1st Discussion by Kyriel, November 2000

See the 3rd Discussion by N. E. Brigand, October 2005

See the 4th Discussion by laerasea, June 2008

See the 5th Discussion by Darkstone, March-April 2011

See the 6th Discussion by noWizardme, January 2016

 

The Passage of the Marshes

by nerdanel50, May 18-25, 2003

Introduction [5/18 @ 18:30] (1/13)

1: Smťagol the Boy Scout Patrol Leader [5/19 @ 0:24] (10/18)

2: Music hath charms [5/19 @ 10:01] (11/19)

3: Grubs again, grumble grumble. [5/19 @ 10:55] (10/44)

4: Just because youíre paranoid doesnít mean they arenít out to get you. [5/20 @ 0:26] (11/14)

5: Beyond hope? [5/20 @ 10:49] (8/16)

6: Stuck in the Mud [5/20 @ 14:38] (9/12)

7: Something in the water? [5/21 @ 2:49] (8/11)

8: Blinded with science [5/21 @ 12:22] (10/22)

[9]: Whatís with the wind? [5/21 @ 18:13] (8/24)

10: Pronoun trouble [5/22 @ 2:45] (11/20)

11: Better Living Through Chemistry [5/22 @ 20:42] (6/7)

where am I?--12?: 7, revisited [5/23 @ 0:15] (6/10)

13: Me, myself and I [5/23 @ 13:02] (8/15)

14: Open floor [5/24 @ 11:34] (2/2)

Summary [5/25 @ 21:19] (18/18)

 

See the 1st Discussion by Idril Celebrindal, November 2000

See the 3rd Discussion by Altaira, October 2005

See the 4th Discussion by Modtheow, June-July 2008

See the 5th Discussion by Ataahua, April 2011

See the 6th Discussion by oliphaunt, January 2016

 

The Black Gate is Closed

by Doorwarden of Theoden, May 25-June 2, 2003

#1: The land and the rise of Evil [5/25 @ 15:02] (11/19)

#2: From fish to the world as comestibles [5/26 @ 16:28] (12/14)

#3: So what is this Gollum character thinking, anyway? [5/26 @ 16:44] (9/15)

#4: Frodo lays down the law [5/27 @ 21:03] (8/25)

#5: Remembrance of things past [5/27 @ 21:30] (9/9)

#6: Sauron's form (you knew it was coming!) [5/28 @ 21:01] (10/22)

#7: Sauron and Gollum: the odd couple [5/30 @ 0:19] (8/9)

#8: Gollum galore [5/30 @ 1:05] (5/7)

#9: The angst of decision-making [5/31 @ 0:56] (11/18)

#10: Dare I say the word? [5/31 @ 1:10] (8/34)

#11: open discussion [5/31 @ 1:15] (5/6)

summary [6/2 @ 19:06] (16/16)

 

See the 1st Discussion by Blue Wizard, November 2000

See the 3rd Discussion by Canto di Numenor, Oct. 2005

See the 4th Discussion by sador, July 2008

See the 5th Discussion by Hamfast Gamgee, April 2011

See the 6th Discussion by Al Carondas, January 2016

 

Of Herbs and Stewed Rabbit

by gullygilly, June 1-7, 2003

How I'll ladle out the portions... [6/1 @ 9:26] (11/13)

#1: Imagery [6/2 @ 4:14] (9/21)

#2: Herbal Essence [6/2 @ 4:33] (8/35)

#3: Trees 'n Such [6/2 @ 19:21] (9/22)

#4: A Hostile Presence [6/3 @ 4:22] (11/14)

#5: This Little Light of Mine part 1 [6/3 @ 4:29] (9/23)

#6 :This Little Light of Mine part 2 [6/3 @ 14:57] (10/22)

#7: Setting the table [6/4 @ 4:27] (8/12)

#8: 'Food is Good' [6/4 @ 4:34] (7/18)

#9: He loves me...he loves me not... [6/4 @ 16:56] (14/24)

#10: Two's company; three's a crowd [6/5 @ 3:39] (5/9)

#11: Faramir [6/5 @ 3:45] (11/16)

#12: Faramir con't [6/5 @ 15:04] (9/15)

#13: Rangers & the Reality of war [6/6 @ 4:33] (8/10)

#14: On Oliphaunts [6/6 @ 4:40] (8/10)

Of Herbs & Stewed Hasenpfeffer #15: Chapter title [6/6 @ 5:05] (7/21)

#16: Open Forum [6/7 @ 9:12] (3/8)

Chapter summary (WARNING: lengthy, bad poetry inside) [6/7 @ 21:04] (17/19)

 

See the 1st Discussion by Septembrist, Nov.-Dec. 2000

See the 3rd Discussion by squire, October 2005

See the 4th Discussion by Saelind, July 2008

See the 5th Discussion by One Ringer, April 2011

See the 6th Discussion by Hamfast Gamgee, January 2016

 

The Window on the West

by Celandine Brandybuck, June 10-15, 2003

Next week's chapter discussion [6/6 @ 1:38] (1/1)

1. Initial remarks [6/10 @ 3:40] (2/5)

2. Faramir questions Frodo [6/10 @ 3:42] (17/38)

3. The blowing of the horn [6/10 @ 18:22] (13/30)

4. An improbable recognition? [6/11 @ 10:11] (8/16)

5. Stewardship/Kingship [6/12 @ 0:48] (19/48)

6. Mithrandir [6/12 @ 0:51] (10/19)

7. Faramirís hopes [6/12 @ 21:10] (9/24)

8. The refuge of Henneth AnnŻn [6/12 @ 21:14] (12/22)

9. Quest for immortality [6/13 @ 16:26] (8/10)

10. Necessity [6/13 @ 16:32] (10/18)

11. Elves [6/14 @ 10:23] (8/37)

12. Sam lets his tongue slip [6/14 @ 10:41] (10/35)

13. Open comments [6/15 @ 13:04] (5/44)

14. Summary/wrap-up [6/15 @ 21:24] (16/17)

 

See the 1st Discussion by Septembrist, December 2000

See the 3rd Discussion by an seleichan, November 2005

See the 4th Discussion by Menelwyn, July 2008

See the 5th Discussion by entmaiden, April 2011

See the 6th Discussion by MirielCelebdel, January 2016

 

The Forbidden Pool

by hatster, June 15-22, 2003

Introduction and Waxing Poetic [6/15 @ 10:32] (7/14)

#1: The Great Divide [6/16 @ 6:07] (10/15)

#2: Can you hear me now? [6/16 @ 6:16] (8/52)

#3: special bonus round from HoME [6/16 @ 16:38] (7/21)

#4: Something fisshy about these fissh [6/16 @ 20:19] (10/18)

a quick poll about tomorrow's questions [6/16 @ 20:30] (6/31)

#5: For Pity's Sake! [6/17 @ 7:07] (8/22)

#6: Oh, Just Shoot Me! Or Promises, Promises [6/17 @ 7:21] (7/24)

#7: Bonus (celebratory) resurrected question and Spidery things [6/17 @ 22:14] (9/14)

#8: And the Forbidden Tool [6/17 @ 22:19] (6/12)

#9: Riddles in the Dark [6/18 @ 7:43] (10/13)

#10: Short question--the unseen punishment [6/18 @ 11:00] (10/12)

#11: Architectural Digest or Psychology Today [6/18 @ 17:32] (6/17)

#12: A Wednesday night free for all [6/18 @ 17:47] (4/17)

#13: Whose side are you on, anyway? [6/19 @ 6:21] (5/8)

#14: It's (shower) curtains for you [6/19 @ 6:52] (7/27)

#15: Where's Sam? [6/20 @ 1:34] (6/11)

#16: He's a poet and he don't know it, [6/20 @ 1:51] (6/9)

#17: Here come d' Judge [6/20 @ 4:01] (6/17)

#18: White noise [6/20 @ 19:02] (9/10)

#19: My this chapter is short! [6/20 @ 19:06] (5/7)

#20: Mathoms or Answers that need Questioning [6/20 @ 19:18] (4/9)

#21: Open Floor [6/21 @ 6:00] (4/15)

Summing up [6/22 @ 13:03] (19/23)

 

The 1st Discussion archive has been lost.

See the 3rd Discussion by Isis, November 2005

See the 4th Discussion by weaver, July-August 2008

See the 5th Discussion by Elizabeth, May 2011

See the 6th Discussion by Hamfast Gamgee, February 2016

 

Journey to the Cross-roads

by NZ Strider, June 22-29, 2003

# 1: Preliminary Remarks [6/22 @ 13:42] (4/10)

#2: Faramir the Ranger [6/22 @ 23:33] (17/41)

#3: A Test of Frodoís Leadership [6/23 @ 13:53] (10/46)

#4: Faramirís Gift [6/23 @ 16:47] (13/46)

#5: Botany & Lebethron [6/24 @ 15:12] (13/25)

#6: Gollumís Behaviour [6/25 @ 0:36] (10/25)

#7: Darkness emanates from Mordor [6/25 @ 15:35] (14/40)

#8: Morgul Vale [6/26 @ 1:58] (14/19)

#9: Decent Places [6/26 @ 16:47] (8/15)

#10: The Cross-roads [6/27 @ 4:10] (9/14)

#11: The Old King [6/27 @ 13:10] (10/16)

#12: Open Discussion [6/27 @ 13:20] (5/14)

#13: Summary [6/29 @ 18:15] (14/14)

 

See the 1st Discussion by Gorel, December 2000

See the 3rd Discussion by Silent_Watcher, Nov. 2005

See the 4th Discussion by a.s., August 2008

See the 5th Discussion by squire, May 2011

See the 6th Discussion by Mironiel, February 2016

 

The Stairs of Cirith Ungol

by drogo_drogo, June 29-July 6, 2003

So It Begins... [6/29 @ 11:58] (3/7)

1: Minas Morgul, or Dancing with the NazgŻl in the Pale Moonlight [6/30 @ 6:46] (8/11)

2: Frodo, Sam, Gollum, and the Ring Go for Tea with the Wraiths [6/30 @ 12:39] (7/9)

3: The Army Departs and Multiple Storylines [7/1 @ 6:25] (7/16)

4: The Hobbit, the Witch-king, the Ring, and the Phial (sounds like a lost C.S. Lewis novel) [7/1 @ 6:38] (7/21)

5: Other Fronts and Frodoís Despair [7/1 @ 18:16] (10/15)

6: You Take the High Road and Iíll Take the Low Road and Iíll Be in Mordor Before Ye [7/2 @ 6:49] (12/23)

7: Samís Speech, or There and Back Again [7/2 @ 12:35] (7/15)

8: Sam and the Seamless Web of Story [7/3 @ 6:43] (5/6)

9: Samwise the Stouthearted and the Famousest of the Hobbits [7/3 @ 6:47] (6/9)

10: The Choices of Master Smťagol [7/3 @ 17:48] (8/18)

11: Samís ďSneakĒ Attack and Thereís No Turning Back Now [7/3 @ 17:52] (12/15)

Cirith Ungol Free-for-All [7/5 @ 8:02] (3/15)

Summary [7/6 @ 10:06] (15/15)

 

See the 1st Discussion by Kyriel, January 2001

See the 3rd Discussion by nefisa3, November 2005

See the 4th Discussion by Saelind, August 2008

See the 5th Discussion by Pryderi, May 2011

See the 6th Discussion by squire, February 2016

 

Shelob's Lair

by JewelTook, July 6-14, 2003

Introduction [7/6 @ 15:36] (2/4)

#1: Arachnophobia [7/7 @ 8:52] (13/19)

#2: History of the World: Part 1 [7/7 @ 8:54] (9/10)

#3: Signs [7/7 @ 21:17] (9/14)

#4: Creep Show [7/7 @ 21:33] (9/20)

#5: Wait Until Dark [7/8 @ 10:17] (9/13)

#6: Stand By Me [7/8 @ 21:08] (11/11)

#7: A Beautiful Mind [7/9 @ 9:11] (9/15)

#8: The Shining [7/9 @ 9:17] (9/23)

#9: Star Wars [7/9 @ 21:05] (13/16)

#10: The Great Escape [7/10 @ 9:33] (11/13)

#11: Resident Evil [7/10 @ 19:46] (6/17)

#12: The Sixth Sense [7/11 @ 9:37] (7/13)

#13: Eight-Legged Freaks [7/11 @ 9:54] (5/8)

#14: A Simple Plan [7/11 @ 20:38] (6/6)

#15: Say Anything (Open Discussion) [7/11 @ 20:42] (4/28)

Summary [7/14 @ 10:28] (18/21)

 

See the 1st Discussion by Kimi, January 2001

See the 3rd Discussion by linkinparkelf, Nov.-Dec. 2005

See the 4th Discussion by Beren IV, August 2008

See the 5th Discussion by CuriousG, May 2011

See the 6th Discussion by enanito, Feb-Mar 2016

 

The Choices of Master Samwise

by notlost, July 14-20, 2003

Introduction to "The Choices of Master Samwise" [7/14 @ 1:59] (0/0)

#1: I Heard a Fly Buzz [7/14 @ 2:34] (10/23)

#2: Shelob as a WMD [7/14 @ 11:31] (13/23)

#3: Samwise the Stouthearted Hearing Voices and Speaking in Tongues [7/14 @ 12:15] (9/20)

#4: Whose Scene is it Anyway? And Color My World [7/14 @ 17:59] (8/21)

#5: Master, Dear Master [7/15 @ 8:53] (12/23)

#6: Anger is an Energy [7/15 @ 8:56] (6/11)

#7: The Great Debate [7/15 @ 18:19] (12/30)

#8: Decisions, Decisions [7/15 @ 18:25] (8/11)

#9: Is that your FINAL answer? [7/16 @ 9:04] (10/21)

#10: The Heartbreak of Indecision [7/16 @ 9:06] (13/16)

#11: (F)orc(ked) Tongues [7/16 @ 17:50] (9/10)

#12: Canít Get There From Here [7/16 @ 17:54] (7/10)

#13: Ringside Gossip [7/17 @ 8:37] (6/8)

#14: Something Slipped (Houston, We Have a Problem) and Oh, Yes, They Call Him the Sneak [7/17 @ 8:41] (8/11)

#15: Samís Inner Elf, and Frodo Lives! [7/17 @ 14:35] (5/7)

#16: The Social Construction of Sam [7/17 @ 14:38] (10/46)

#17: And Weíll Have Fun, Fun, FunÖ. [7/18 @ 9:15] (5/5)

#18: Boom. Clang. Closure? [7/18 @ 9:18] (6/6)

#19: Open Mike [7/18 @ 16:32] (5/56)

Wrapping Up Chapter X (marks the spot): Chapter and Discussion Summary [7/20 @ 22:30] (14/28)

 

See the 1st Discussion by Annael, January 2001

See the 3rd Discussion by erather, November 2005

See the 4th Discussion by Dreamdeer, August 2008

See the 5th Discussion by Standingstone, May-June 2011

See the 6th Discussion by N.E. Brigand, March 2016

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