The Two Towers - Book III

February 24 - May 9, 2003

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The Departure of Boromir

by Eledhwen, February 24, 2003 (Cancelled due to illness)

To Inferno re this week's discussion. <Curious> [2/24 @ 13:22] (1/4)

See the 1st Discussion by Beren11:11, August 2000

See the 3rd Discussion by Arevanye, July 2005

See the 4th Discussion by Finding Frodo, April 2008

See the 5th Discussion by Darkstone, January 2011

See the 6th Discussion by MirielCelebdil, September 2015

 

The Riders of Rohan

by NZ Strider, March 2-8, 2003

#1 Preliminary remarks (or: blather, as Ufthak prefers...) [3/2 @ 0:23] (10/12)

#2: Geographical conundra and enigmata. [3/3 @ 0:47] (3/10)

#3: The Orcs’ Quarrel [3/3 @ 0:47] (13/22)

#4: Aragorn’s glance towards Gondor [3/3 @ 0:48] (14/39)

#5: “Gondor! Gondor, between the Mountains and the Sea!” [3/3 @ 12:47] (9/18)

#6: The Eagle again [3/3 @ 12:48] (8/11)

#7: The Orcs’ habits [3/3 @ 12:49] (11/14)

#8: Pippin’s brooch [3/3 @ 12:50] (11/17)

#9: Aragorn recognised as leader [3/4 @ 1:15] (8/13)

#10: The “true” Quest [3/4 @ 1:16] (9/10)

#11: An end to hope. [3/4 @ 1:17] (11/12)

#12: Elves’ Sleeping Habits [3/4 @ 13:21] (7/11)

#13: Aragorn’s Journeys [3/4 @ 13:25] (15/22)

#14: The Appearance of the Riders [3/4 @ 13:46] (14/59)

#15: Tolkien’s use of Anglo-saxon/ talking names [3/5 @ 0:53] (15/33)

#16: Characterisation of Éomer [3/5 @ 0:54] (8/16)

#17: Aragorn’s Revelation-scene [3/5 @ 0:56] (9/30)

#18: Characterisation of Gimli [3/5 @ 0:56] (15/22)

#19: Views of Lórien [3/5 @ 13:48] (9/11)

#20: Legends and Reality [3/5 @ 13:49] (8/11)

#21: What’s happened to the Hobbits? [3/5 @ 13:51] (11/16)

#22: The geopolitical situation [3/6 @ 0:39] (6/6)

#23: Gandalf’s Prior Deeds and Fate [3/6 @ 0:41] (9/9)

#24: More on the Riders’ Society [3/6 @ 0:45] (11/17)

#25: Éomer’s Disobedience [3/6 @ 12:38] (8/17)

#26: Characterisation of Legolas [3/6 @ 12:39] (9/28)

#27: Foresight, Forethought, and Foreknowledge [3/6 @ 12:40] (9/12)

#28: Fangorn Forest [3/7 @ 1:32] (6/6)

#29: A Hint of Ents [3/7 @ 1:33] (10/18)

#30: The Old Man [3/7 @ 1:34] (7/11)

#31: Bewilderment [3/7 @ 14:14] (4/10)

#32: Bits and Pieces [3/7 @ 14:18] (2/8)

#33: Open discussion [3/7 @ 14:19] (3/14)

#34: Summary [3/8 @ 1:27] (22/23)

 

See the 1st Discussion by Annael, Aug.-Sept. 2000

See the 3rd Discussion by Kimi, July 2005

See the 4th Discussion by N. E. Brigand, April 2008

See the 5th Discussion by squire, January 2011

See the 6th Discussion by Brethil, September 2015

 

The Uruk-hai

by Kiskadee, March 10-16, 2003

#1 -A Rude Awakening [3/10 @ 10:14] (13/28)

#2 -'What good have I been?' [3/10 @ 10:39] (13/37)

#3 - Testing the consistency [3/10 @ 11:08] (5/31)

#4 - Harsh Words [3/10 @ 13:19] (15/35)

#5 Fine Young Cannibals-part A [3/11 @ 10:34] (12/30)

#6 Fine Young Cannibals-part B [3/11 @ 12:48] (8/33)

#[7] Evil with a small "e" [3/11 @ 23:59] (12/45)

#8 Logistics [3/12 @ 0:24] (5/19)

#9 Orcs in Real Life [3/12 @ 11:59] (4/5)

#10 -The origin of orcs: words [3/12 @ 13:50] (6/28)

#11- The origins of orcs: influences [3/12 @ 14:41] (4/20)

Ethical standards among Orcs (?) <NZ Strider> [3/12 @ 14:48] (7/38)

#12-Dr. Uglúk [3/13 @ 14:03] (8/17)

#13-Laughter is the best medicine [3/13 @ 14:14] (15/29)

#14 - Leaves of Lorien [3/13 @ 15:59] (12/20)

#15 -Grishnákh-part A [3/14 @ 12:29] (6/25)

#16 -Grishnákh-part B [3/14 @ 12:40] (7/16)

#17- Swift innumerable spears... [3/14 @ 14:26] (7/10)

#18-The floor is open [3/14 @ 14:41] (3/35)

Summary [3/16 @ 23:53] (16/16)

 

See the 1st Discussion by Blue Wizard, September 2000

See the 3rd Discussion by Morwen, August 2005

See the 4th Discussion by One Ringer, April 2008

See the 5th Discussion by Hamfast Gamgee, January 2011

See the 6th Discussion by cats16, Sept-Oct 2015

 

Treebeard

by Entmaiden, March 17-22, 2003

#1 Tolkien sets the atmosphere [3/17 @ 10:10] (15/22)

#2 M&P meet Treebeard [3/17 @ 15:44] (9/17)

#3 Notes on Entish [3/17 @ 21:43] (9/31)

#4 Introductions [3/18 @ 9:53] (8/12)

#5 Treebeard gets caught up on the news [3/18 @ 9:54] (8/19)

#6 The Tree-Hugger [3/18 @ 9:56] (14/15)

#7 Ents or Trees? [3/18 @ 19:27] (4/9)

#8 One big happy family [3/18 @ 19:30] (4/5)

*9 Hey, here's Tom! [3/18 @ 23:47] (7/20)

#10 Cousins from the North [3/19 @ 13:14] (9/10)

#11 The Old Lists [3/19 @ 13:16] (10/22)

#12 Dinner Party at Treebeard's [3/19 @ 22:36] (3/5)

#13 More News [3/20 @ 7:43] (7/8)

#14 Half-Orcs [3/20 @ 7:44] (6/16)

#15 The Entwives [3/20 @ 12:52] (12/34)

#16 On to Entmoot [3/21 @ 10:24] (11/16)

#17 The Other Ents [3/21 @ 10:31] (5/6)

#18 Entish Opera [3/21 @ 15:20] (5/12)

#19 Entmoot Rules of Order [3/21 @ 15:23] (3/4)

#20 Night Lies over Isengard [3/21 @ 15:24] (5/5)

#21 Open discussion [3/21 @ 15:25] (2/4)

Summary [3/22 @ 14:22] (16/19)

 

See the 1st Discussion by Trufflehunter, September 2000

See the 3rd Discussion by Auxerre, August 2005

See the 4th Discussion by visualweasel, April-May 2008

See the 5th Discussion by N.E. Brigand, February 2011

See the 6th Discussion by Mikah, October 2015

 

The White Rider

by Watson, March 23-30, 2003

A few words before beginning (tomorrow) [3/23 @ 15:49] (2/5)

Introduction: Looking Back to Look Ahead [3/24 @ 11:03] (16/28)

#1: Signs and Portents [3/24 @ 11:06] (9/26)

#2: Do I have unsightly bags and wrinkles? [3/24 @ 11:11] (11/33)

#3: Funny we should meet this way [3/25 @ 10:32] (10/21)

#4: Just a few alterations [3/25 @ 10:35] (9/18)

#5: I’m on a mission from God [3/25 @ 10:42] (9/23)

#6: Why? [3/25 @ 10:49] (13/51)

#7: "I did not know you were a man foresighted" [3/25 @ 10:51] (7/13)

#8: I’ll give you a piece of my mind... [3/26 @ 10:40] (7/13)

#9: Strangers in the Night [3/26 @ 10:43] (3/5)

#10: The Picture of Saruman Gray [3/26 @ 10:46] (6/10)

#11: A nice pickle he’s landed himself in [3/26 @ 10:50] (6/10)

#12: A moment of doubt [3/26 @ 10:53] (8/16)

#13: Timing Is Everything [3/26 @ 10:57] (5/85)

#14: “Name him not!” [3/27 @ 10:42] (8/11)

#15: Middle-earth Wrestling Federation [3/27 @ 10:45] (6/8)

#16: On Eagle’s Wings [3/27 @ 10:48] (4/16)

#17: The reports of my death... [3/27 @ 10:49] (7/8)

#18: I’m not dead yet [3/27 @ 10:57] (7/12)

#19: Messages from Lothlorien [3/28 @ 10:49] (8/15)

#20: Heigh-ho, Silver! [3/28 @ 11:04] (5/39)

#21: Lights, camera.... [3/28 @ 11:06] (7/8)

#22: And the floor goes to... [3/28 @ 11:10] (2/16)

The Week in Review [3/30 @ 10:45] (19/19)

Another question about "The White Rider." <Curious> [3/30 @ 14:52] (4/10)

 

See the 1st Discussion by Kyriel, September 2000

See the 3rd Discussion by hatster, August 2005

See the 4th Discussion by Kethry, May 2008

See the 5th Discussion by dormouse, February 2011

See the 6th Discussion by Entwife Wandlimb, October 2015

 

The King of the Golden Hall

by Morwen, March 31-April 6, 2003

Introduction [3/31 @ 9:51] (0/0)

#1 [3/31 @ 9:53] (12/18)

#2 [3/31 @ 9:56] (13/16)

#3 [3/31 @ 19:56] (7/24)

[#4] [3/31 @ 19:59] (9/11)

#5 [3/31 @ 20:02] (7/12)

#6 [4/1 @ 9:17] (7/13)

#7 [4/1 @ 9:19] (9/17)

#8 [4/1 @ 9:22] (9/18)

#9 [4/1 @ 20:23] (6/7)

#10 [4/1 @ 20:27] (5/13)

#11 [4/1 @ 20:30] (7/12)

#12 [4/2 @ 9:19] (3/6)

#13 [4/2 @ 9:32] (6/12)

#14 [4/2 @ 9:26] (6/8)

#15 [4/2 @ 21:02] (5/8)

#16 [4/2 @ 21:07] (10/28)

#17 [4/2 @ 21:11] (4/9)

[#18] (and an apology) [4/3 @ 9:16] (8/9)

# 19 [4/3 @ 9:23] (5/6)

#20 [4/3 @ 9:26] (8/14)

#21 [4/3 @ 20:47] (6/8)

#22 [4/3 @ 20:53] (10/31)

#23 [4/3 @ 20:58] (5/8)

#24 [4/4 @ 8:38] (3/3)

#25 [4/4 @ 8:41] (3/6)

#26 [4/4 @ 8:45] (4/6)

additional question. <Curious> [4/4 @ 9:52] (7/47)

Wormtongue spitting. <Golfimbul> [4/4 @ 13:38] (2/10)

My belated summary [4/6 @ 15:36] (18/19)

 

See the 1st Discussion by Ophelia, et. al., Sept.-Oct. 2000

See the 3rd Discussion by Modtheow, August 2005

See the 4th Discussion by Elizabeth, May 2008

See the 5th Discussion by CuriousG, February 2011

See the 6th Discussion by squire, October 2015

 

Helm's Deep

by Atlas, April 6-15, 2003

Preface [4/6 @ 16:11] (1/1)

#1 [4/7 @ 2:36] (3/7)

#2 [4/7 @ 2:44] (13/16)

[#3] [4/7 @ 3:04] (6/9)

#4 [4/8 @ 2:33] (8/10)

#5 [4/8 @ 2:57] (10/28)

#6 [4/8 @ 3:25] (6/11)

#7 [4/9 @ 2:21] (9/12)

#8 [4/9 @ 3:04] (9/19)

#9 [4/9 @ 3:50] (10/20)

#10 [4/10 @ 2:28] (9/13)

#11 [4/10 @ 2:39] (8/17)

#12 [4/10 @ 2:44] (9/13)

#13 [4/10 @ 3:26] (7/15)

Helm's Deep: another inconsistency. <Curious> [4/10 @ 8:01] (1/4)

#14 [4/11 @ 3:05] (9/13)

#15 [4/11 @ 3:11] (8/12)

#16 [4/11 @ 3:20] (7/8)

#17 [4/11 @ 20:30] (11/14)

#18 [4/11 @ 20:41] (4/13)

Another Helm's Deep chapter question... <Dame Ioreth> [4/13 @ 10:02] (6/18)

Helm's Deep: what I love about this chapter. <Curious> [4/15 @ 8:48] (6/30)

Thank you, Atlas, for leading last week's discussion! <Curious> [4/15 @ 8:55] (11/11)

 

See the 1st Discussion by glaze, October 2000

See the 3rd Discussion by Arquen, Aug.-Sept. 2005

See the 4th Discussion by Atahuaa, May 2008

See the 5th Discussion by CuriousG, February 2011

See the 6th Discussion by arithmancer, Oct-Nov 2015

 

The Road to Isengard

by Inferno, April 15-18, 2003

Revisiting the past: [4/15 @ 21:28] (5/11)

Deus ex machina and The quality of Mercy [4/15 @ 21:29] (8/22)

What's going on? Orc-slaying and The Glittering Caves [4/15 @ 21:31] (10/20)

Legolas and Gimli and Nature vs the Machine [4/16 @ 9:23] (7/8)

Ents victorious and Why Isengard? [4/16 @ 9:25] (7/17)

Theoden and Eomer. [4/16 @ 9:26] (7/83)

Hama they buried. [4/16 @ 12:27] (12/30)

Open Discussion. [4/17 @ 18:43] (8/38)

The king meets the Holbytlan <drogo drogo> [4/18 @ 19:35] (3/8)

 

See the 1st Discussion by Idril Celebrindal, October 2000

See the 3rd Discussion by Aerlinn, September 2005

See the 4th Discussion by Milady, May-June 2008

See the 5th Discussion by Curious, February 2011

See the 6th Discussion by Darkstone, November 2015

 

Flotsam and Jetsam

by Altaira, April 21-27, 2003

Can't for the life of me remember who administers the Chapter Discussions... <Aerlinn> [4/4 @ 4:20] (1/1)

Introduction, and a Present [4/21 @ 15:01] (9/10)

#1 – What’s in a Name [4/21 @ 23:21] (14/23)

#2 – A Story Within a Story [4/21 @ 23:30] (13/22)

#3 – Group Dynamics [4/21 @ 23:37] (13/39)

#4 – The Wonders of Entdraught [4/22 @ 23:55] (9/23)

#5 – The Pipeweed Connection [4/23 @ 0:01] (16/32)

#6 – What did Sauron know? [4/23 @ 0:24] (10/15)

#7 – Hundreds of Huorns [4/23 @ 23:59] (9/19)

#8 – The Finer Points of Orc Cross-breeding [4/24 @ 0:10] (11/24)

#9 – What *was* Saruman Thinking? [4/25 @ 0:05] (9/16)

10 – The Capture of Saruman [4/25 @ 13:34] (6/9)

#11 – The Magnificent Storming of Isengard! [4/25 @ 13:37] (8/16)

#12 – Kindred Spirits [4/25 @ 13:40] (13/21)

#13 – The Drowning of Isengard [4/27 @ 12:52] (8/9)

#14 – Revenge [4/27 @ 12:56] (8/13)

#15 – Open Floor [4/27 @ 12:58] (2/7)

Summary and Thanks [4/27 @ 22:09] (24/27)

 

See the 1st Discussion by glaze, October 2000

See the 3rd Discussion by Penthe, September 2005

See the 4th Discussion by Canto, June 2008

See the 5th Discussion by Pryderi, March 2011

See the 6th Discussion by Enanito, November 2015

 

The Voice of Saruman

by lumpkin, April 28-May 5, 2003

Getting Started [4/28 @ 10:26] (0/0)

#1: Expectations [4/28 @ 10:53] (10/13)

#2 How Did It Come To This? [4/28 @ 10:56] (11/13)

#3 A Question of Peril [4/28 @ 11:00] (13/19)

#4: Boy Do I Want This Guy On My Debate Team [4/29 @ 11:37] (11/14)

#5 Even the Wise Were Deceived [4/29 @ 11:40] (8/18)

#6 Man of Skill [4/29 @ 11:47] (6/11)

#7 Theoden’s Parley With Saruman [4/30 @ 13:24] (8/8)

#8: Theoden’s Response [4/30 @ 13:25] (5/9)

#9: Gibbets and Crows [4/30 @ 13:26] (9/14)

#10: Saruman Turns His Attention to Gandalf [5/1 @ 13:07] (12/18)

#11 His Staff Is Broken [5/1 @ 13:11] (10/16)

#12 Of the Istari [5/1 @ 13:15] (7/27)

#13 The Fateful Choice of a Projectile [5/2 @ 13:30] (13/20)

#14 More Loose Ends and Some Fun [5/2 @ 13:33] (9/12)

#15 Saruman’s Place in the History of the Third Age [5/2 @ 13:43] (5/5)

Wrapping Up [5/5 @ 2:10] (15/16)

 

See the 1st Discussion by Annael, October 2000

See the 3rd Discussion by erather, September 2005

See the 4th Discussion by Isis, June 2008

See the 5th Discussion by weaver, March 2011

See the 6th Discussion by jochenkeen, November 2015

 

The Palantir

by Eledwhen, May 5-9, 2003

#1 [5/5 @ 12:15] (12/16)

#2 - dangling rag-tags [5/5 @ 12:17] (13/26)

#3 - rolling hills [5/5 @ 12:18] (6/19)

#4 - the Growth of Hobbits [5/6 @ 4:46] (6/8)

#5 - Meddling in the Affairs of Wizards [5/6 @ 9:56] (7/12)

#6 - Pippin's vision [5/6 @ 13:48] (7/21)

#7 - Healing [5/7 @ 10:34] (8/26)

#8 - what was Pippin seeing? [5/7 @ 10:35] (12/21)

#9 - Pebbles [5/7 @ 10:36] (7/8)

#10 - Aragorn and the Stone [5/8 @ 11:37] (8/13)

#11 - What If ...? [5/8 @ 11:39] (13/16)

#12 - Those that watch from afar [5/8 @ 11:41] (5/5)

#13 - Gandalf etc. [5/9 @ 11:54] (6/12)

#14 - anything I've missed? [5/9 @ 11:55] (1/6)

#15 - summary, long [5/9 @ 12:57] (23/24)

 

See the 1st Discussion by Malbeth, Oct.-Nov. 2000

See the 3rd Discussion by Chip of Dale, Sept.-Oct. 2005

See the 4th Discussion by drogo, June 2008

See the 5th Discussion by sador, March 2011

See the 6th Discussion by Elizabeth, November 2015

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