The Two Towers - Book IV

November 6, 2000 - January 26, 2001

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The Taming of Smeagol

by Kyriel, November 6-12, 2000

Whose will?

brains and brawn

A Gollum in Full

How much does Gollum know?

"It bites"

Swearing on the Precious

THE best quote of the chapter

summary

 

See the 2nd Discussion by Nimfalma Took, May 2003

 See the 3rd Discussion by N. E. Brigand, October 2005

See the 4th Discussion by laerasea, June 2008

See the 5th Discussion by Darkstone, March-April 2011

See the 6th Discussion by noWizardme, January 2016

 

The Passage of the Marshes

by Idril Celebrindal, November 13-19, 2000

Tolkien and World War I

The landscape of nightmare

Lieutenant Frodo and Corporal Samwise

Do the Orcs represent the Germans?

The Dead Marshes

Landscape of industry

Resolve and despair

Power of the Ring

Three of a perfect pair

A sense of growing horror

The cold hard lands

Wraithses

Chapter summary

 

See the 2nd Discussion by nerdanel50, May 2003

See the 3rd Discussion by Altaira, October 2005

See the 4th Discussion by Modtheow, June-July 2008

See the 5th Discussion by Ataahua, April 2011

See the 6th Discussion by oliphaunt, January 2016

 

The Black Gate is Closed

by Blue Wizard, November 20-26, 2000

The Black Gate is Closed #1

#2 - I told you so

#3 - What was Frodo thinking?

#4 - That would be my command.

#5 - Tales From the South

 

See the 2nd Discussion by Doorwarden of Theoden, May-June 2003

 See the 3rd Discussion by Canto di Numenor, Oct. 2005

See the 4th Discussion by sador, July 2008

See the 5th Discussion by Hamfast Gamgee, April 2011

See the 6th Discussion by Al Carondas, January 2016

 

Of Herbs and Stewed Rabbit

by Septembrist, November 27-December 3, 2000

Light from within.

Dream of peace.

Leadership question.

Chance companion.

Invoking the Valar.

Sleeping Sam

Im Westen Nichts Neues.

Summary

 

See the 2nd Discussion by gullygilly, June 2003

See the 3rd Discussion by squire, October 2005

See the 4th Discussion by Saelind, July 2008

See the 5th Discussion by One Ringer, April 2011

See the 6th Discussion by Hamfast Gamgee, January 2016

 

The Window on the West

by Septembrist, December 4-10, 2000

Inquisition

What did they know and when did they know it?

Faramir/Eomer parallel

High and Middle Men

Heir of Elendil.

Boromir's funeral boat

Frodo's zenith.

Summary

 

See the 2nd Discussion by Celandine Brandybuck, June 2003

See the 3rd Discussion by an seleichan, November 2005

See the 4th Discussion by Menelwyn, July 2008

See the 5th Discussion by entmaiden, April 2011

See the 6th Discussion by MirielCelebdel, January 2016

 

 

The Forbidden Pool

The discussion archive for this chapter has been lost.

 

Journey to the Cross-roads

by Gorel, December 18-24, 2000

On Gorse

Henneth Annun and Lorien

Humble Heros

Humor

Terrain

Horror Stories

The Crown

Transitional Chapter

 

See the 2nd Discussion by NZ Strider, June 2003

See the 3rd Discussion by Silent_Watcher, Nov. 2005

See the 4th Discussion by a.s., August 2008

See the 5th Discussion by squire, May 2011

See the 6th Discussion by Mironiel, February 2016

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The Stairs of Cirith Ungol

by Kyriel, January 7-13, 2001

Pick a Morgul, any Morgul [1/7/2001 @ 19:12] (7/18)

Frodo and the Witch King [1/8/2001 @ 13:02] (6/9)

Sam waxes philosophical, Part I [1/9/2001 @ 9:06] (8/11)

Sam waxes philosophical, Part 2 [1/10/2001 @ 9:15] (6/7)

Shut the book on the bad parts? [1/11/2001 @ 9:47] (3/4)

The Road(s) not Taken [1/12/2001 @ 11:47] (2/2)

Summing it all up [1/13/2001 @ 15:13] (6/6)

 

See the 2nd Discussion by drogo_drogo, June-July 2003

See the 3rd Discussion by nefisa3, November 2005

See the 4th Discussion by Saelind, August 2008

See the 5th Discussion by Pryderi, May 2011

See the 6th Discussion by squire, February 2016

 

Shelob's Lair

by Kimi, January 15-22, 2001

Part 1: Why spiders? [1/15/2001 @ 2:24] (5/8)

Part 2: Frodo the strong [1/15/2001 @ 2:27] (5/8)

Part 3: What is Shelob? [1/16/2001 @ 3:32] (1/2)

Part 4: Why doesn't Shelob want the Ring? [1/16/2001 @ 3:38] (8/12)

interesting things about Shelob <Steve D> [1/17/2001 @ 1:52] (1/2)

Part 5: "I wish old Tom was near us" [1/17/2001 @ 3:05] (3/6)

Part 6: "Aiya Eärendil Elenion Ancalima! [1/17/2001 @ 3:08] (5/9)

Part 7: Her Ladyship [1/18/2001 @ 3:34] (4/5)

Part 8: Sméagol's revenge [1/18/2001 @ 3:36] (2/3)

Summary. [1/19/2001 @ 3:26] (6/6)

 

See the 2nd Discussion by JewelTook, July 2003

See the 3rd Discussion by linkinparkelf, Nov.-Dec. 2005

See the 4th Discussion by Beren IV, August 2008

See the 5th Discussion by CuriousG, May 2011

See the 6th Discussion by enanito, Feb-Mar 2016

 

The Choices of Master Samwise

by Annael, January 23-28, 2001

The Choices of Master Samwise. Part 1. [1/23/2001 @ 0:00] (2/6)

Part II: Shelob's end.    [1/23/2001 @ 0:03]  (3/7)

Part III: Frodo, Mr. Frodo!    [1/23/2001 @ 0:06]  (3/3)

Part IV: Tolkien on suicide. [1/23/2001 @ 20:41] (3/18)

Part V: Sam resolves to go on.    [1/23/2001 @ 20:44]  (2/2)

Part VI: Sam reneges. [1/23/2001 @ 20:46] (3/3)

Part VII: Gorbag and Shagrat. [1/24/2001 @ 22:22] (2/3)

Part VIII: Orders from Lugburz [1/24/2001 @ 22:25] (3/7)

Summing up [1/26/2001 @ 12:13] (4/4)

 

See the 2nd Discussion by notlost, July 2003

See the 3rd Discussion by erather, November 2005

See the 4th Discussion by Dreamdeer, August 2008

See the 5th Discussion by Standingstone, May-June 2011

See the 6th Discussion by N.E. Brigand, March 2016

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